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	<title>Florida Bicycle Law &#187; Overtaking and passing</title>
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		<title>Lane Splitting (Que Jumping)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question Eric commented:  Every once in a while people like to argue about why lane splitting or filtering should be legal. In my experience, people that make a habit of passing cars on the right, whether in a designated bicycle lane or not, have many &#8220;interesting&#8221; stories about how dangerous bicycling is. So, when I [...]]]></description>
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<p>Eric commented:  Every once in a while people like to argue about why lane splitting or filtering should be legal. In my experience, people that make a habit of passing cars on the right, whether in a designated bicycle lane or not, have many &#8220;interesting&#8221; stories about how dangerous bicycling is. So, when I arrive at a line of stopped cars, I get in line behind them. This, of course &#8220;wastes time&#8221;, but I can assure you that the small amount of time I waste waiting for the light to change is nothing compared to the time this man will be wasting.  Hazard a guess as to which statute they charged this fellow with?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news-press.com/article/20120415/NEWS0102/120416001/Naples-bicyclist-injured-February-crash-ruled-fault">http://www.news-press.com/article/20120415/NEWS0102/120416001/Naples-bicyclist-injured-February-crash-ruled-fault<span id="more-995"></span></a></p>
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<p>It is difficult to understand the exact circumstances from the article.  Depending on the circumstances, que-jumping or lane splitting can be safe and legal, usually due to lane width.  Cyclists regularly do it in other circumstances which are not legal or safe.  See these posts and the article on CommuteOrlando.com</p>
<p><a href="../2012/02/passing-on-the-right/">http://flbikelaw.org/2012/02/passing-on-the-right/</a></p>
<p><a href="../2011/06/queue-jumping-bicyclists/">http://flbikelaw.org/2011/06/queue-jumping-bicyclists/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/09/08/cue-jumping/">http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/09/08/cue-jumping/</a></p>
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		<title>Cyclist Passing a Stopped Bus</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question Frugopolis asked: What is the proper side to pass a bus stopped at a bus stop? Sometimes they stop in the lane of traffic leaving the shoulder open for me to pass on the right, but departing bus passengers are a hazard. Likewise, passing on the left requires riding into the lane of traffic. [...]]]></description>
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<p><em>Frugopolis asked: </em>What is the proper side to pass a bus stopped at a bus stop? Sometimes they stop in the lane of traffic leaving the shoulder open for me to pass on the right, but departing bus passengers are a hazard. Likewise, passing on the left requires riding into the lane of traffic.<span id="more-975"></span><em></em></p>
<h2><span style="color: #800080;">Answer</span></h2>
<p>Passing should be accomplished on the left except when passing on the right is specifically allowed.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.083 – Overtaking and Passing a Vehicle</strong></em></p>
<p><em>The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to those limitations, exceptions, and special rules hereinafter stated:</em></p>
<p><em>(1) The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction …. shall pass to the left thereof at a safe distance.</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.084 – When Overtaking on the Right is Permitted</strong></em></p>
<p><em>(1) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass on the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:</em></p>
<p><em>(b) Upon a street or highway with unobstructed pavement not occupied by parked vehicles of sufficient width for two or more lines of moving traffic in each direction;</em></p>
<p><em>(c) Upon a one-way street, or upon any roadway on which traffic is restricted to one direction of movement, where the roadway is free from obstructions and of sufficient width for two or more lines of moving vehicles.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The statute goes on to state,</p>
<blockquote><p><em>(2)</em><em> </em><em> …. In no event shall such movement be made by driving off the pavement or main-traveled portion of the roadway.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>That does not account for the fact that bicyclists are permitted to leave the roadway and use the paved shoulder.  It would appear that cyclists can pass on the right on a paved shoulder when a motorist is prohibited from doing so.</p>
<p>The paved shoulder is not part of the roadway.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.003 – Definitions</em></strong></p>
<p><em>(42)</em><em> </em><em>Roadway &#8211; That portion of a highway improved, designed, or ordinarily used for vehicular travel, exclusive of the berm or shoulder.</em><em></em></p></blockquote>
<p>An overtaking driver must always use caution.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.084</strong> </em>(Continued)</p>
<p><em>(2) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle on the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The statutes seem to permit bicyclists to overtake and pass either on the left in the roadway, or on the right using the shoulder.  The burden for safety in either case is on the overtaking driver, in this case the cyclist.</p>
<p>One last word of caution has to do with passing a vehicle stopped at a crosswalk.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.130 – Pedestrians, Traffic Regulations</strong></em></p>
<p><em>(9) Whenever any vehicle is stopped at a marked crosswalk or at any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection to permit a pedestrian to cross the roadway, the driver of any other vehicle approaching from the rear shall not overtake and pass such stopped vehicle.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Other conditions are imposed on passing as described in this post:</p>
<p><a href="../2010/02/passing-with-oncoming-bicycles/">http://flbikelaw.org/2010/02/passing-with-oncoming-bicycles/</a></p>
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		<title>Passing a Bicyclist in a No-Passing Zone</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question Harry asked: I know other states (WI &#38; PA) have recently passed a law that allows cars to cross the double yellow to give enough clearance to pass a cyclist. Is there a FL law that allows cars to cross a double yellow to pass a cyclist? Answer It depends on how you interpret [...]]]></description>
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<p>Harry asked: I know other states (WI &amp; PA) have recently passed a law that allows cars to cross the double yellow to give enough clearance to pass a cyclist. Is there a FL law that allows cars to cross a double yellow to pass a cyclist?<span id="more-973"></span></p>
<h2><span style="color: #800080;">Answer</span></h2>
<p>It depends on how you interpret the only existing statute that is applicable.  Please see:</p>
<p><a href="../2009/07/passing-a-bicyclist-in-a-no-passing-zone/">http://flbikelaw.org/2009/07/passing-a-bicyclist-in-a-no-passing-zone/</a></p>
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		<title>Three Foot Law in Bike Lane</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 15:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question Herman asked: I was talking to an acquaintance a while back and she was telling me that the 3&#8242; law applies even when we&#8217;re in the bike lane.  Is that true? Answer The applicable statute is: s. 316.083 &#8211; Overtaking and Passing a Vehicle The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of [...]]]></description>
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<p>Herman asked: I was talking to an acquaintance a while back and she was telling me that the 3&#8242; law applies even when we&#8217;re in the bike lane.  Is that true?<span id="more-951"></span></p>
<h2><span style="color: #800080;">Answer</span></h2>
<p>The applicable statute is:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.083</em></strong><strong><em> &#8211; </em></strong><strong><em>Overtaking and Passing a Vehicle</em></strong></p>
<p><em>The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction </em></p>
<p><em>(1)</em><em> </em><em> …. The driver of a vehicle overtaking a bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle must pass the bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle at a safe distance of not less than 3 feet between the vehicle and the bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The statute does not impose any limitations by the location of the bicyclist which could be in the roadway, including a bike lane, or the paved shoulder, which is not part of the roadway.  The same is true whether the bicyclist is being passed on the left or right, when that is permissible.</p>
<p>Note also that the three feet is the absolute minimum and in many situations the safe passing distance may be more.</p>
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		<title>Passing on the Right</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question Alan asked: I do a lot of riding in downtown St Augustine. It&#8217;s close, cramped, and traffic is poorly regulated. These streets were laid hundreds of years ago and weren&#8217;t meant for heavy traffic. When I&#8217;m late for work, I &#8220;take the lane&#8221; and ride along with traffic because the speed limit is low [...]]]></description>
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<p>Alan asked: I do a lot of riding in downtown St Augustine. It&#8217;s close, cramped, and traffic is poorly regulated. These streets were laid hundreds of years ago and weren&#8217;t meant for heavy traffic. When I&#8217;m late for work, I &#8220;take the lane&#8221; and ride along with traffic because the speed limit is low enough that I can keep up. My question is this: There are intersections in town where there is a stop light, but one of the four intersecting streets is for pedestrians only. Therefore, traffic is never coming from or going to this street. Is it legal for me to move to the right side of the road, overtake a backed up line of cars at the red light, and pass through the red light with the entrance to the pedestrian street on my right? I am not crossing any avenues for traffic and am simply moving as a pedestrian would across the mouth of a pedestrian only street. Am I doing something illegal?<span id="more-887"></span></p>
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<p>Good on you for using proper lane positioning.  I’m afraid that’s the end of the kudos though.  I suggest that you leave a few minutes early and drive your bicycle like other vehicle drivers.</p>
<p>If you are crossing the street within the roadway you are running the light, which is clearly unlawful.</p>
<p>If you are on the sidewalk for any part of this maneuver, you are violating a St. Augustine ordinance that prohibits bicyclists on sidewalks.  If vehicles are not permitted, the pedestrian street you mention is a sidewalk.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>Sec. 24-107. &#8211; Riding on sidewalks prohibited.</em></strong></p>
<p><em>No person shall ride or use any bicycle upon any sidewalk upon any of the streets or lanes within the corporate limits of the city. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>If you are passing vehicles on the right when they are stopped for a crosswalk at the light, you may be violating this statute:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.130 – Pedestrians, Traffic Regulations</em></strong></p>
<p><em>(9)</em><em> </em><em>Whenever any vehicle is stopped at a marked crosswalk or at any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection to permit a pedestrian to cross the roadway, the driver of any other vehicle approaching from the rear shall not overtake and pass such stopped vehicle.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Passing should be accomplished on the left except when passing on the right is specifically allowed.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.083</em></strong><strong><em> &#8211; </em></strong><strong><em>Overtaking and Passing a Vehicle</em></strong></p>
<p><em>The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to those limitations, exceptions, and special rules hereinafter stated:</em></p>
<p><em>(1)</em><em> </em><em>The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction …. shall pass to the left thereof at a safe distance</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.084</em></strong><strong><em> &#8211; </em></strong><strong><em>When Overtaking on the Right is Permitted</em></strong></p>
<p><em>(1)</em><em> </em><em>The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass on the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:</em></p>
<p><em>(b)</em><em> </em><em>Upon a street or highway with unobstructed pavement not occupied by parked vehicles of sufficient width for two or more lines of moving traffic in each direction;</em></p>
<p><em>(c)</em><em> </em><em>Upon a one-way street, or upon any roadway on which traffic is restricted to one direction of movement, where the roadway is free from obstructions and of sufficient width for two or more lines of moving vehicles.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>If you are passing vehicles within the same lane, you are violating .083 and .084, since the lanes in St. Augustine are of substandard-width and not wide enough for “two lines of moving vehicles”.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.2065 – Bicycle Regulations</em></strong></p>
<p><em>(5)(a)3 …. A “substandard-width lane” is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.</em><em> </em></p></blockquote>
<p>The minimum width of a lane that allows “two lines of moving vehicles” is 14 feet.  The lanes in St. Augustine are not 14 feet wide, except on the west side of the Bridge of Lions and about 100 feet of the northbound wide curb lane on US 1 at San Carlos.  Maybe others, but most are less than 12 feet, particularly in old town.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>FDOT Plans Preparation Manual</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Chapter 8 – Bicycle Facilities</em></strong><em> </em></p>
<p><em>Section 8.4.3 Wide Curb Lanes</em><em></em></p>
<p><em>Wide outside curb lanes are through lanes which provide a minimum of 14 feet in width. This width allows most motor vehicles to pass cyclists within the travel lane, which is not possible in more typical 10-12 foot wide travel lanes.</em><em></em></p></blockquote>
<p>If you are using another roadway to avoid the light, you are violating this statute:</p>
<p><strong><em> </em></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.074 - Obedience to and Required Traffic Control Devices</em></strong></p>
<p><em>(2) No person shall drive any vehicle from a roadway to another roadway to avoid obeying the indicated traffic control indicated by such traffic control device.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>See also:</p>
<p><a href="../2011/06/queue-jumping-bicyclists/">http://flbikelaw.org/2011/06/queue-jumping-bicyclists/</a></p>
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		<title>Wide Vehicles &#8211; Narrow Lanes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question NE2 asked:  Why is 14 feet the accepted minimum for a “substandard-width” lane.  Florida Statute 316.515(1) says that a vehicle may be 102 inches (8.5 feet) wide, not including safety devices (e.g. mirrors). I don&#8217;t know how far mirrors are allowed to stick out, but I would assume at least 6 inches on each [...]]]></description>
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<p>NE2 asked:  Why is 14 feet the accepted minimum for a “substandard-width” lane.  Florida Statute 316.515(1) says that a vehicle may be 102 inches (8.5 feet) wide, not including safety devices (e.g. mirrors). I don&#8217;t know how far mirrors are allowed to stick out, but I would assume at least 6 inches on each side. With a 3 foot passing clearance, that leaves only 1.5 feet for the bike in a 14-foot lane, certainly not enough for safe operation. <span id="more-859"></span></p>
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<p>You have correctly cited the applicable statute.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.515</em></strong><strong><em> &#8211; </em></strong><strong><em>Maximum Width, Height, Length</em></strong></p>
<p><em>(1)</em><em> </em><em>Width Limitation &#8211; The total outside width of any vehicle or the load thereon may not exceed 102 inches, exclusive of safety devices determined by the department to be necessary for the safe and efficient operation of motor vehicles.</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em></p>
<p>Vehicles that are even wider may be encountered on the roadways.  It is not realistic to try to define a substandard-width lane based on the widest vehicle that could possibly be on the road.  Rather, it is defined based on the safety of the roadway users.</p>
<p>We must look at this question from the different perspectives of the cyclist and the overtaking driver.</p>
<p>A substandard width lane is defined in the bicycle regulations, and is one of the many conditions and circumstances that gives the cyclist the right to leave the right-most curb or edge of the roadway. I believe the intent of that provision is to allow a cyclist to control the lane and discourage unsafe passing within narrow lanes. Note that the statute does not specify the actual width of a substandard-width lane.</p>
<p><em> </em></p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s.  316.2065 – Bicycle Regulations</strong></em></p>
<p><em>(5)(a) 3.</em><strong><em> </em></strong><em>For the purposes of this subsection, a “substandard-width lane” is a lane too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Without regard to the width of the lane<em>,</em><strong><em> </em></strong>the burden for safety when overtaking and passing a bicyclist lies entirely with the overtaking driver if the cyclist is otherwise obeying the law.  The driver must pass at a safe distance, and no less than 3 feet.</p>
<p><strong><em> </em></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s.  316.083 – Overtaking and Passing A Vehicle</em></strong></p>
<p><em>(1) …. The driver of a vehicle overtaking a bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle must pass the bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle at a safe distance of not less than 3 feet between the vehicle and the bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle.</em><strong> </strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong><em> </em></strong></p>
<p>The driver of the overtaking vehicle must make the determination that it is safe before passing.  The driver of a Smart Car may be able to safely pass within a 12-foot wide lane if the cyclist is to the right.  The driver of the vehicle you describe in the question will have to wait until it is safe to change lanes to pass a cyclist in a lane that is 14 feet or even wider.</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>The width of 14 feet is derived from Florida Department of Transportation planning and design guidelines.  Note that they also indicate the 14 feet is the width that allows MOST motor vehicles to safely pass a cyclist while remaining within the lane.  Drivers of wider vehicles must change lanes to pass.</p>
<p><strong><em> </em></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>Plans Preparation Manual</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Chapter 8 – Bicycle Facilities</em></strong></p>
<p><em>Section 8.4.3 Wide Curb Lanes</em></p>
<p><em>Wide outside curb lanes are through lanes which provide a minimum of 14 feet in width.  This width allows most motor vehicles to pass cyclists within the travel lane, which is not possible in more typical 10-12 foot wide travel lanes.</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>Manual of Uniform Minimum Standards for Design, Construction and Maintenance for Streets and Highways (Florida Greenbook)</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Chapter 9 – Bicycle Facilities</em></strong></p>
<p><em>B.3  Curb Lanes</em></p>
<p><em>Fourteen feet is the recommended lane width for shared use in a wide curb lane, and is the minimum width that will allow passenger cars to safely pass bicyclists within a single lane.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>More detail of the various rights and responsibilities of roadway users can be found in the post on <a href="../2010/01/substandard-width-lanes-updates/">Substandard-Width Lanes</a>.</p>
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		<title>Right Turns Again</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question Gary asked: This is in regards to a column, Dr. Delay, in a newspaper. The article states: Who has right of way? Bicycle or car? Reader wrote to the Doc about an incident she recently observed involving a bicycle and a car. She posed a question about right of way: &#8220;Assume a bike and [...]]]></description>
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<p>Gary asked: This is in regards to a column, Dr. Delay, in a newspaper.</p>
<p>The article states:</p>
<blockquote><p>Who has right of way? Bicycle or car?</p>
<p>Reader wrote to the Doc about an incident she recently observed involving a bicycle and a car. She posed a question about right of way:</p>
<p>&#8220;Assume a bike and a car are traveling in the same direction in the same lane. As they approach an intersection, the traffic light is green. They reach the corner at the same time, with the bike on the outside of the car. The bike rider wants to continue on through the intersection, but the person driving the car wants to turn right. Who has the right of way? I saw this scenario this week. I don&#8217;t know if the car signaled, but the alert bike rider gave way for the car and then proceeded through the intersection. It scared me to think what could have happened. I have seen bikes approach a red light and not even stop. This is especially stupid if a car turns right on red. What is the correct thing to do?&#8221;</p>
<p>Doc&#8217;s answer:</p>
<p>The first problem with this scenario is the third sentence (&#8220;They reach the corner at the same time, with the bike on the outside of the car&#8221;). Cyclists are by law expected to behave in traffic as they would were they driving a car or motorcycle — they are not to be riding abreast of any vehicle in a single lane (bike or car or motorcycle, etc.). So because the cyclist should not have been next to the car in the same lane it was appropriate that he/she gave way but the point of &#8220;Share the Road&#8221; is to truly share the road and make the same sound decisions when traveling on two wheels one would make while operating on four. And if it&#8217;s not cool to run a red light in your car, the same holds true when you&#8217;re on a bike.</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe she has done a disservice to cyclists by telling the public the cyclist was wrong, when in my interpretation of the law, the motorist was overtaking the cyclist and must give 3 feet, and since the cyclist was not turning, would have the right-of-way.</p>
<p>If she was wrong, may I quote your response in a letter I will write to her.<span id="more-835"></span></p>
<h2><span style="color: #800080;">Answer</span></h2>
<p>The Doc is wrong for a number of reasons, and you are welcome to quote verbatim anything in this article.</p>
<p>I must note that the Doc is correct that cyclists have the same rights and duties as other drivers and running red lights is not legal for any driver. However, “Share the Road” does not necessarily mean yielding to other drivers.  It means riding legally and safely.  When doing so, it may &#8220;delay&#8221; other traffic, but it is not unlawful.  The question is not whether cars or bicycles have the right of way.  Both must comply with their legal responsibilities.</p>
<p>This is the classic “right hook” situation.</p>
<p>First, the doc is wrong by answering a question without having all the facts.  Is this a substandard-width lane or a wide curb lane?  Who is overtaking whom?  It isn’t possible to accurately answer the question without that information.</p>
<p>Next, the Doc states,</p>
<blockquote><p>“…. because the cyclist should not have been next to the car in the same lane…. they are not to be riding abreast of any vehicle in a single lane (bike or car or motorcycle, etc.).”</p></blockquote>
<p>I don’t know where the Doc got that, but it is absolutely wrong.  Two bicyclists cannot ride abreast under certain circumstances, but riding abreast of other vehicles is perfectly legal and is done all the time.  The statute that applies is:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.2065 – Bicycle Regulations</em></strong></p>
<p><em>(6)</em><em> </em><em>Persons riding bicycles upon a roadway may not ride more than two abreast except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles. Persons riding two abreast may not impede traffic when traveling at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing and shall ride within a single lane.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Let’s discuss lane width.  If the lane is wide enough for a bicycle and a motor vehicle to travel safely side by side (Minimum 14 feet according to the Department of Transportation) there is no reason they can’t do so.  It is not unlawful.</p>
<p>The article does not indicate that one was overtaking the other, but it is unlikely that they were travelling at exactly the same speed as they approached the intersection. One or the other is overtaking and passing at some point.  The overtaking driver must insure it is safe to do so. Motorists are required to safely pass no closer than three feet from a cyclist. <strong>s. 316.083</strong></p>
<p>If the lane is less than 14 feet wide, it is a substandard-width lane and if they are both within the lane and traveling side by side, the overtaking driver is violating the statute.</p>
<p>For a full discussion of substandard-width lanes, see this post:</p>
<p><a href="../2010/01/substandard-width-lanes-updated/">http://flbikelaw.org/2010/01/substandard-width-lanes-updated/</a></p>
<p>Let’s disregard the lane width issue, and assume they were traveling side by side at the same speed as they approached the intersection.  What are their respective responsibilities?</p>
<p>The cyclist is apparently keeping right and riding legally unless passing on the right, which may or may not be legal, depending on the circumstances such as lane width.</p>
<p>The motorist is required to keep as far to the right as is practicable when preparing for a right turn.  If the motorist has left enough room to the right for a bicyclist, even one passing on the right, is the motorist as far right as is practicable?   If the motorist can’t safely move as far right as is practicable to prepare for the right turn because the cyclist is present, the motorist must slow and yield, then move right.  <strong>s. 316.151</strong></p>
<p>The motorist shall not drive from a direct course unless it can be done safely and without interfering with the safe operation of any vehicle. <strong>s. 316.085</strong></p>
<p>The motorist may not move right or left upon a highway unless such movement can be done with reasonable safety. <strong>s. 316.155</strong></p>
<p>A full discussion of right turns at intersections and safe cycling practices is at this post:</p>
<p><a href="http://flbikelaw.org/2009/08/138/">http://flbikelaw.org/2009/08/138/</a></p>
<p>You may want to suggest that Doc read these posts and refer readers to <a href="../">Ask Geo</a> for accurate information about cycling.</p>
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		<title>Queue-Jumping Bicyclists</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question Dana asked:  As more bicycles and riders enter our roadways and ride in traffic with motor vehicles, I am concerned that certain bike riders that I encounter seem to display a righteous indignance about the &#8220;3 foot law&#8221; when they are being overtaken by a car, but the same riders do not seem to [...]]]></description>
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<p>Dana asked:  As more bicycles and riders enter our roadways and ride in traffic with motor vehicles, I am concerned that certain bike riders that I encounter seem to display a righteous indignance about the &#8220;3 foot law&#8221; when they are being overtaken by a car, but the same riders do not seem to think this law applies when traffic comes to a halt at traffic signal or intersection. I&#8217;ll describe a certain aggravating situation I have dubbed: &#8220;leap-frogging.&#8221;</p>
<p>For example: Two or more bike riders are riding abreast in the right lane of traffic on a multilane roadway in heavy traffic. Cars behind the bikes are unable to change lanes and safely pass because of the speed differential of traffic created by the impediment of slow-moving bikes in the right lane, versus the rapidly moving cars in the left lane. When an opening in traffic allows a car following the bikes to change lanes and safely pass the group of bikes in the left lane, all is well again until traffic reaches the next intersection or signal.</p>
<p>At the intersection, the cars stop and maintain their positions in line, while the group of cyclists break their lane-controlling two-abreast formation to overtake the stopped vehicles by narrowly passing between the cars to set themselves up at the head of the line of traffic waiting for the signal to change. They have now successfully, but illegally, leap-frogged the vehicle(s) that had safely and patiently overtaken them prior.</p>
<p>In other posts on your site, you have encouraged cyclists to get the license plate number of motor vehicles that have violated the 3 foot law, and to report that information to law enforcement (presumably so that the offender might receive a citation, and/or fine). However, in the leap-frogging situation, it is nearly impossible to identify the violating cyclist(s), because they do not display any identification or registration. Cyclists operate with nearly complete anonymity, and because of this, some cyclists extend this notion to being able to operate their vehicles on the roadway with impunity because they cannot be readily identified or reported to law enforcement for any alleged violations of the uniform traffic laws. Even if they are caught in the illegal act by law enforcement, and receive a citation, they do not suffer the same consequences as a motorist cited with a moving violation, that carries with it the consequences of &#8220;points&#8221; and/or increased insurance costs, etc.</p>
<p>My Question Is: How can laws be equally enforced against motorists and bicyclists when this unequal identification loophole for bikes exists, and where cyclists have no real fear of being identified by other vehicles, thus avoiding possible citation or punishment?</p>
<p>In my opinion, if cyclists have all of the rights and duties applicable to other drivers (i.e. pursuant to s. 316.2065 Fla. Stat.), then they should be burdened with the same duty to display a registration, as do other low-speed vehicles (See by analogy: s. 316.2122 Fla. Stat., which applies to low-speed motor vehicles). Allowing this double-standard under the law to endure, and the illegal behavior that it promotes with the leap-frogging members of the cycling population, will only serve to continue to increase the friction between the motoring and cycling communities, because of actual and perceived inequities.</p>
<p>I would encourage you to consider that the issue raised in my question falls squarely within one of your quoted maxims on your site:  &#8221;Creating a safer and more hospitable environment for cycling requires law enforcement equity.&#8221; <span id="more-766"></span></p>
<h2><span style="color: #800080;">Answer </span></h2>
<p>Some of your comments have been cut for the sake of brevity.  I don’t believe they affect the main theme of your question.</p>
<p>Another name for this is queue-jumping, a common occurrence.  Under some circumstances, it may be unlawful.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.083 &#8211; Overtaking and Passing a Vehicle</strong> </em></p>
<p><em>(1) The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction …. shall pass to the left thereof at a safe distance.</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.089 &#8211; Driving on Roadways Laned for Traffic </strong>- Whenever any roadway has been divided into two or more clearly marked lanes for traffic, the following rules, in addition to all others consistent herewith, shall apply: </em></p>
<p><em>(1) A vehicle shall be driven as nearly as practicable entirely within a single lane</em></p></blockquote>
<p>However, the “three foot “ law does not apply to bicyclists overtaking motor vehicles, only to other drivers (Including bicyclists) overtaking bicycles.</p>
<p><strong>s. 316.083</strong> continues:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The driver of a vehicle overtaking a bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle must pass the bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle at a safe distance of not less than 3 feet between the vehicle and the bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Cyclists overtaking and passing on the right is not unlawful under certain circumstances, such as when the lane is wide enough to allow two lines of traffic.  That is not defined any further, indicating the problems with some of the statutes.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.084 &#8211; When Overtaking on the Right is Permitted</strong> </em></p>
<p><em>(1) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass on the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:</em></p>
<p><em>(b) Upon a street or highway with unobstructed pavement not occupied by parked vehicles of sufficient width for two or more lines of moving traffic in each direction.</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em></p>
<p>Cyclists may use a paved shoulder.  Drivers of motor vehicles may not.</p>
<p>Let’s assume this is a substandard-width lane with a curb and no paved shoulder.</p>
<p>Whether the cyclists are riding two abreast or single file in a substandard-width lane is inconsequential.  Motorists must change lanes to pass.  See <a href="../2010/01/substandard-width-lanes-updated/">Substandard-Width Lanes</a>.</p>
<p>I certainly agree that this behavior is rude and unsafe.  It also is illogical.  Even if t is done within the laws, these cyclists have just passed and ticked off the drivers who will again be trying to pass them when the light changes.  Instead of using the normal traffic patterns of ebb and flow to their advantage by waiting until the traffic abates or waiting in line behind other drivers, they are endangering themselves and irritating the people who will be trying to pass them.</p>
<p>Obtaining information and reporting unlawful actions is encouraged for both cyclists and motorists.  Unfortunately, in many instances, cyclists claim their reports to law enforcement about non-criminal traffic violations are met with “Since we didn’t observe it, we can’t take action”.  Even recording a plate number does not help in many cases.  Having a license plate on a bicycle could be the same.</p>
<p>We encourage officers to cite violations by cyclists.  If all law enforcement would take violations of the laws about bicycling seriously and accurately cite all cyclists and motorists for infractions, we could make a big change to the roadway environment and greatly reduce the conflict, crashes, deaths and injuries.</p>
<p>The deaths and injuries of cyclists are frequently the result of their own illegal actions.</p>
<p>Continued reporting of violations can make law enforcement and other government officials aware of a chronic problem, which will eventually get attention and the locations that present problems can be identified.  Reporting violations is recommended for all roadway users.  Cycling groups usually ride the same routes on the same days.  Have you called the police when these incidents occur?</p>
<p>As you said, our purpose is &#8220;Creating a safer and more hospitable environment for cycling requires law enforcement equity.&#8221;  We do that by making information about the laws available for everyone to use for education and enforcement.</p>
<p>You are proposing a change to the laws, which may result from better education about the problems with the laws as they are written, but that is not the mission of this site.  We can only help educate users of this site about existing laws.</p>
<p>Licensing of bicyclists has been discussed for many years.  The Florida Bicycle Association has a legislative agenda to propose changes to the laws.  I will separately forward your suggestion to them for their consideration.  I will ask them to address it directly with you.</p>
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		<title>Changing Lanes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 16:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question Kathy asked:  Vehicle traveling on 3 lane busy road in rush hour traffic. 2 way with turn lane in the middle for intersection with stoplight. Vehicle stopped at light and needs to get into turn lane (approximately 5 cars back).  Checked all mirrors with no oncoming traffic from the rear.  Inched out from a [...]]]></description>
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<p>Kathy asked:  Vehicle traveling on 3 lane busy road in rush hour traffic. 2 way with turn lane in the middle for intersection with stoplight. Vehicle stopped at light and needs to get into turn lane (approximately 5 cars back).  Checked all mirrors with no oncoming traffic from the rear.  Inched out from a stop to get into turn lane.  Bicyclist has gotten in the lane on the driver&#8217;s side in the blind spot not a foot parallel to the car. As car turned into turn lane, bicycle and car collided. Does bicycle have right of way when all other traffic is stopped for a light and he is riding in my lane on my left side?<span id="more-735"></span></p>
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<p>From the information you have provided, it is difficult to determine exactly what happened.  The cyclist may not report the details in the same way and we don’t have the benefit of unbiased witnesses.  The following are some comments and the statutes that apply.</p>
<p>You state that you checked your mirrors and there was no oncoming traffic from the rear, which apparently is not the case, since the cyclist was passing.</p>
<p>You indicated that you did not see the cyclist due to the blind spot in your mirrors. It is difficult to understand how you could determine that the cyclist was less than one foot from your vehicle if, as you stated, you didn’t see him. We are cautioned not to rely on our mirrors since they could be improperly adjusted, resulting in a blind spot.</p>
<p>Florida statutes require that we insure it is safe before changing lanes or moving left or right in the roadway.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.155</strong><strong> &#8211; </strong><strong>When Signal Required</strong></em></p>
<p><em>(1) No person may turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a highway unless and until such movement can be made with reasonable safety…. in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement.</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em></p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.089</strong><strong> &#8211; </strong><strong>Driving on Roadways Laned for Traffic</strong></em></p>
<p><em>Whenever any roadway has been divided into two or more clearly marked lanes for traffic, the following rules, in addition to all others consistent herewith, shall apply: </em></p>
<p><em>(1) A vehicle shall be driven as nearly as practicable entirely within a single lane and shall not be moved from such lane until the driver has first ascertained that such movement can be made with safety. </em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em></p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.085</strong><strong> &#8211; </strong><strong>Limitations on Overtaking, Passing, Changing Lanes and Changing Course</strong></em></p>
<p><em>(2) No vehicle shall be driven from a direct course in any lane on any highway until the driver has determined that the vehicle is not being approached or passed by any other vehicle in the lane or on the side to which the driver desires to move and that the move can be completely made with safety and without interfering with the safe operation of any vehicle approaching from the same direction.</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em></p>
<p>It also isn’t clear why a cyclist would pass a motor vehicle on the left side with only one foot of clearance if the adjacent lane was clear, particularly if your left turn indicator was flashing, as is required for moving laterally in the roadway.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.155</strong><strong> &#8211; </strong><strong>When Signal Required</strong></em></p>
<p><em>….and then only after giving an appropriate signal….</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em></p>
<p>A cyclist in the left turn lane with the intent to turn left is entitled to use the full lane.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.151 &#8211; Required Position and Method of Turning at Intersections</strong></em></p>
<p><em>(1) The driver of a vehicle intending to turn at an intersection shall do so as follows:</em></p>
<p><em>(b) Left Turn &#8211; ….A person riding a bicycle and intending to turn left in accordance with this section is entitled to the full use of the lane from which the turn may legally be made….</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em><em> </em></p>
<p>If in fact the cyclist was passing at a distance of less than one foot, he may not have been passing at the safe distance required by the statutes.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>s. 316.083</strong><strong> &#8211; </strong><strong>Overtaking and Passing a Vehicle</strong></em></p>
<p><em>The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to those limitations, exceptions, and special rules hereinafter stated:</em></p>
<p><em>(1) The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction …. shall pass to the left thereof at a safe distance….</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em><em> </em></p>
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		<title>Three-foot Law</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question Rodney asked:  Does the three-foot minimum passing statute apply to motorists if a cyclist is operating in a designated bicycle lane? If not, wouldn&#8217;t it be more prudent to forgo the use of the bicycle lane with regards to unsafe speed differentials and passing clearances between the cyclist and motorist? Answer In the applicable [...]]]></description>
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<p>Rodney asked:  Does the three-foot minimum passing statute apply to motorists if a cyclist is operating in a designated bicycle lane?</p>
<p>If not, wouldn&#8217;t it be more prudent to forgo the use of the bicycle lane with regards to unsafe speed differentials and passing clearances between the cyclist and motorist?<span id="more-497"></span></p>
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<p>In the applicable statute, there is no reference to the use of bike lanes or any other lane considerations.  A motorist is required to safely pass a bicyclists no closer than three feet, wherever they may be.  See <a href="http://flbikelaw.org/2010/04/bicycles-may-use-full-lane/">Bicycles May Use Full Lane</a>.</p>
<p>There are many who believe, with some supporting evidence, that motorists pass bicyclists more closely when they are in a bicycle lane.  I am not aware of any formal studies that provide definitive evidence one way or the other.</p>
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