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	<title>Florida Bicycle Law &#187; cycling groups</title>
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		<title>Rights of Cycling Groups</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question David also asked: Yesterday (Sunday, April 1) on the Rickenbacker Causeway in Miami, a police officer was getting all upset about a group of about 50 &#8211; 100 cyclists taking up a whole lane of the road. He was screaming out of his window for us to &#8220;keep right.&#8221; The Rickenbacker causeway also has [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><span style="color: #800080;">Question</span></h2>
<p>David also asked: Yesterday (Sunday, April 1) on the Rickenbacker Causeway in Miami, a police officer was getting all upset about a group of about 50 &#8211; 100 cyclists taking up a whole lane of the road. He was screaming out of his window for us to &#8220;keep right.&#8221; The Rickenbacker causeway also has a bike lane painted on it. Could you please discuss the legal status of a group of cyclists taking an entire lane in a double-lane road? From reading your site, I believe a) that we are not impeding traffic because there is still another lane for vehicles to pass. b) we are indeed violating the &#8220;two abreast&#8221; rule.  c) We are not obligated to be in the bike lane because we are passing a steady stream of slower cyclists who are in the bike lane. d) If (hypothetically speaking) the bike lane was empty, we&#8217;d still spill over into the road lane, this time violating the statute. So, what rights does a large group of cyclists have to cycle as a group in the road?<span id="more-944"></span></p>
<h2><span style="color: #800080;">Answer</span></h2>
<p>Short answer:  None.</p>
<p>A cycling group is not a defined entity in the statutes.  Rather, each cyclist is operating a vehicle and has the same rights and duties as other drivers while in the roadway.  A bicycle lane is part of the roadway.</p>
<p>Cyclists do have some advantages not applicable to drivers of motor vehicles, such as no requirement to have a driver’s license, no points for a violation of traffic laws and  legally impeding traffic under some circumstances.  On the other hand, they are also required to “keep right” and in the bike lane under some circumstances.  There are many other posts on this site about the exceptions to the “keep right” rules and impeding traffic.</p>
<p>The premise of your question is already answered in your statement, “We are indeed violating the ‘two abreast’ rule.”  If you are admittedly operating unlawfully, how can we devise a statutory justification?</p>
<p>The provisions in the statutes that apply are:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>s. 316.2065</em></strong><strong><em> &#8211; </em></strong><strong><em>Bicycle Regulations</em></strong></p>
<p><em>(1)</em><em> </em><em>Every person propelling a vehicle by human power has all of the rights and all of the duties applicable to the driver of any other vehicle under this chapter</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Let’s not conveniently forget the part about <strong>“all the duties” </strong>of other drivers.</p>
<p>One of those duties is to comply with the provision that cyclists</p>
<blockquote><p><em>(6) …. may not ride more than two abreast at any time </em><em>except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Another is the requirement to ride within a single lane.  A bicycle lane is a lane.</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>(6) </em>(Cont.)<em> Persons riding two abreast may not impede traffic when traveling at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing and shall ride within a single lane.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Cyclists when traveling in a group do not have any special privileges.  In fact, they have a greater responsibility to ride lawfully since their presence creates problems for others.  I am aware of numerous situations throughout the state in which cyclists traveling in large groups routinely run lights and unlawfully take up a full lane and overflow into the adjacent lane, even the lane for on-coming traffic.   Among other locations, I have heard the complaint about Rickenbacker Causeway that groups sometimes overflow into both main travel lanes.  Some groups seem to feel that the roadway is their own personal racing venue, and that the laws do not apply to them.</p>
<p>I fully understand the fact that some cyclists travel in groups for a feeling of security that is not necessarily provided by a respect for the laws and cycling rights by others and full and fair enforcement of the laws that should protect cyclists.</p>
<p>Another consideration that is not addressed in the statutes is that when large groups of cyclists do ride legally, single file and taking the lane in substandard-width lanes, the line can be so long that it becomes virtually impossible for motorists to legally and safely overtake and pass.</p>
<p>I recommend joining organized cycling groups such as the <a href="floridabicycle.org">Florida Bicycle Association</a>, or in your area, the <a href="sfbikecoalition.wordpress.com">South Florida Cycling Coalition</a>, to help them help you to resolve these problems and create a more cycling-friendly environment in Florida.</p>
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		<title>Bicycles in left or right turn lanes</title>
		<link>http://flbikelaw.org/2009/07/bicycles-in-left-or-right-turn-lanes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question: Especially on the weekends, there are large groups of bicyclists, sometimes with 50-100 riders.  When they stop for a red light, they bunch up and begin to even fill the left-turn-only lane, thereby obstructing vehicles from using that assigned lane to wait for the light to change.   Once the signal is green, the bicyclists [...]]]></description>
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<p><em>Especially on the weekends, there are large groups of bicyclists, sometimes with 50-100 riders.  When they stop for a red light, they bunch up and begin to even fill the left-turn-only lane, thereby obstructing vehicles from using that assigned lane to wait for the light to change.   Once the signal is green, the bicyclists in the left-turn lane proceed straight; thereby, not following a marked turning course.   Isn&#8217;t that a violation?</em></p>
<p><span id="more-25"></span>Answer:</p>
<p>When stopped at the light, or at any other time when the intent is to proceed straight through the intersection, they shouldn’t use the marked left turn lane or a right-turn-only lane if present.  The statute that applies is:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>FS 316.089 – Driving on Roadways Laned for Traffic</strong> – Whenever any roadway has been divided into two or more clearly marked lanes for traffic….</p>
<p>(3)  Official traffic control devices may be erected directing specified traffic to use a designated lane or designating those lanes to be used by traffic moving in a particular direction regardless of the center of the roadway; and drivers of vehicles shall obey the directions of such device.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whether the offense is one that warrants a citation by an officer is subject to the discretion of the officer.   The cyclists are probably not thinking about it as a problem, and since they are slower starting, they may be more concerned with not blocking other traffic when the light changes.  If they can all get through one light, other traffic is not disrupted as much.</p>
<p>Is it a really a problem?  Have there been any incidents in which a motorist or cyclist has been injured or otherwise seriously affected?  Would it be a bigger problem if they stopped one behind the other in a long line?  Attempting to single out the actual miscreants and cite them is a difficult task after they resume riding.</p>
<p>Officers are busy and probably have other things that are far more important.  Lacking some indication that it is a real problem, I would put it in the category of 75 mph in a 70 zone on I-95.  Of course I would never do that, but if I ever did, I don’t think the officer would nab me.</p>
<p>If it is a problem, I recommend that an officer talk to the group.  They are probably on that same ride at the same time and place every week, and determining the starting point is not difficult.  If we can get bicycle groups and law enforcement agencies talking to each other to discuss situations like this, we can make giant steps toward communication and cooperation on the roads.</p>
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