http://flbikelaw.org/2010/05/pavement-ribbon/ Questions, answers and news about Florida bicycle laws and law enforcement Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:15:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 http://flbikelaw.org/2010/05/pavement-ribbon/comment-page-1/#comment-822 Frank Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:03:15 +0000 http://flbikelaw.org/?p=551#comment-822 Either way, you would ride as far right as practicable and the right part of that area would be the place. Either way, you would ride as far right as practicable and the right part of that area would be the place.

]]> http://flbikelaw.org/2010/05/pavement-ribbon/comment-page-1/#comment-505 Geo Sun, 30 May 2010 21:20:27 +0000 http://flbikelaw.org/?p=551#comment-505 Actually, to use all three is redundant, although correct. AASHTO guidelines are used in developing MUTCD standards, which have been adopted by the Department of Transportation. Presently the 2003 MUTCD is adopted by FDOT. They are revising their documents though, and in January 2011 will formally adopt the 2009 MUTCD according to their website. You are correct that the "undesignated bike lanes" or unmarked ribbons on curb and gutter roadways should be treated as part of the roadway, which they are, and nothing more. The old "undesignated bike lanes" on paved (flush) shoulder roadways are simply paved shoulders, and not part of the roadway, according to the statutes. The new FDOT definition of bike lane is much more helpful. Actually, to use all three is redundant, although correct. AASHTO guidelines are used in developing MUTCD standards, which have been adopted by the Department of Transportation. Presently the 2003 MUTCD is adopted by FDOT. They are revising their documents though, and in January 2011 will formally adopt the 2009 MUTCD according to their website.
You are correct that the “undesignated bike lanes” or unmarked ribbons on curb and gutter roadways should be treated as part of the roadway, which they are, and nothing more.
The old “undesignated bike lanes” on paved (flush) shoulder roadways are simply paved shoulders, and not part of the roadway, according to the statutes.
The new FDOT definition of bike lane is much more helpful.

]]> http://flbikelaw.org/2010/05/pavement-ribbon/comment-page-1/#comment-503 Rodney Sun, 30 May 2010 15:33:33 +0000 http://flbikelaw.org/?p=551#comment-503 should read .....(per current and present day MUTCD, AASHTO, and FDOT guidelines) should read …..(per current and present day MUTCD, AASHTO, and FDOT guidelines)

]]> http://flbikelaw.org/2010/05/pavement-ribbon/comment-page-1/#comment-502 Rodney Sun, 30 May 2010 15:30:24 +0000 http://flbikelaw.org/?p=551#comment-502 So, a layperson could openly interpret that unless the "ribbon" contains the appropriate and standard/specific bicycle lane markings and signage (per MUTCD, AASHTO, and FDOT guidelines) then such sections are not legal bike lanes and should not be used or regarded as such? So, a layperson could openly interpret that unless the “ribbon” contains the appropriate and standard/specific bicycle lane markings and signage (per MUTCD, AASHTO, and FDOT guidelines) then such sections are not legal bike lanes and should not be used or regarded as such?

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